What's The Deal With Discussion Lists For Writers? (Part One)

Are they really free? Are they actually helpful?interesting articles and/or links. But convenience is the
main issue for me to be kept in touch. I think it is an
Why do writers subscribe to these lists?efficient way of being informed of a variety of thing
that would take days of scanning newspapers,
Why do people start lists for writers?magazines and the fabulous opportunity of getting
another take from likeminded people around the world."
While there's no definite answers to any of those
questions, I can share some opinions of other writers,"I'm a debut historical romance author, or at least I was
who have participated in discussion lists, and links towhen I joined the Tobeez email loop," says
websites with more information so you can make yourCheré Coen, Online features editor for The
own decision!Advocate Online. "Tobeez stands for To Be Published.
The group began when a few newly published
First let's start with the basics. An email discussion list isromance authors began chatting online and realized
not the same as an ezine, an email newsletter or anthere were many things new authors needed to know
announcement list.and that other new authors could benefit from such a
network. This list has been my saving grace. I have
A discussion list is different because it allows you as alearned so many things that only come from going to
subscriber to post your own messages, as well asconferences, chapter meetings of the Romance
read and reply to messages from other subscribers.Writers of America (which I'm a member) and from
The ability to interact with other people is the definingdoing a lot of reading in industry magazines, none of
feature of email discussion lists.which I have much time or money for. We exchange
information about promotions, booksignings, contract
Many such lists exist - some with as few as 5negotiations, agents, editors, press kits, personal fears
subscribers and others with more than 500and good reviews, among much more. The list
subscribers. The number of posts each day varies justcontains members from Australia, New Zealand,
as much depending upon the list.Canada and most of the United States, and because
of this we are also able to share information on
For example, Childrens-Writers List which is dedicatedresearch for upcoming novels."
to the discussion of writing (and illustrating) for children,
including such topics as creativity, work styles and"I'm subscribed to a half dozen lists related to books,
techniques, marketing and promotion, dealing withwriting, and publishing,'' says Peggy Tibbetts, Author of
rejection, etc. - has more than 500 members and hadCarly's Ghost and Rumors of War. "Booklocker's online
more than 1,200 postings last month.promotion kit and "Secrets of Our Success" both
recommend discussion lists as a good way to
While the Romance Writers Support Group, whichpromote online to a broad audience. What I've found to
was created to discuss romance writing and offerbe rather curious in reality is that there is a surprisng
encouragement and advice to romance writers, hadnumber of list subscribers who deeply resent
less than 100 messages posted between its 34promotional posts by other subscribers, some to the
members in the year 2000.point of calling them spam. As a result lots of posts
are generated arguing and complaining about the
This is one of the reasons that most email discussionpropriety of promotional posts. In the end, what's more
list hosts offer subscribers the option to receiveaggravating, deleting one promo post that doesn't
individual emails or a daily digest of all messages.interest you or eight to ten posts bickering over it?
Some hosts also allow subscribers to read the list onlySeems like a no brainer to me. I don't understand why
on the web (by logging into the list archives at the hostsomeone would subscribe to a list and then complain
site, subscribers can choose how often they read theabout promo content related to the subject matter. In
postings).my mind, part of the purpose of subscribing is to learn
what's new and what others are doing online--a
You never know what you may learn from others,means of sharing. If that involves promo posts, then so
who share your interests and goals. By communicatingbe it. Perhaps it's incumbent on the list moderators to
with other writers via discussion lists, you canclarify for their subscribers whether promo posts are
potentially find support, advice, ideas and newacceptable. Obviously everyone agrees that a promo
resources.post about a new weight loss program on a publish list
is inappropriate. But as for promo posts related to the
Just as list size and posting frequency varies, thelist topic, there's currently a good deal of ambiguity,
content and quality of messages are equally diverseeven controversy."
depending upon the other participants and list owners.
But the only way you'll find out if discussion lists can be"I began an "Intranet" site rather than a listserv, as I felt
beneficial to you, is by giving them a shot! You havethat this would enable people to chime in on their own
nothing to lose - most are free! And you're usually notaccord, rather than filling an inbox ..." says Julie Selman,
required to post messages or respond to others'Seattle Writergrrl, Webgrrl, Techwr-L'er, Woman of the
messages, if you choose not to.Woods... "My husband is an active member of a
listserv that has been a real community for him for
You can just sign up, read postings at your leisure andyears. These people share the same passion, and
then decide whether you want to contribute or cancelthey are very, very involved. They will be meeting in
your subscription!the spring for the first time at a conference that they
are setting up. I know that he and I will be looking
Selecting a discussion list that will deliver what youforward to it. Drawbacks that we have both seen is
want is obviously a subjective process. However, youthat we feel guilty if we have not read all of the
may want to read some opinions of other writers, wholistserv -- and we both subscribe to listservs in digest
have participated in various lists.form. Cross postings do happen, especially if you
belong to several listservs for the same community.
So why do writers subscribe to discussion lists?Managing them is more time than either of us usually
have. People on some of the lists are not aware of
"Subscribing to a writers list is the same as shoppingthe "etiquette" of cut and paste -- or don't know how
for new shoes,'' says "Shydove." "It takes trial andto sign up or get off, or how the communication works
error, but then you find the right group, the 'write'-- or about propriety ... some things you just don't post
answers of which you can pick and choose at will."to an entire list! Lurkers are an issue -- how do you
know what you are posting won't get back at you in
"I chose a diverse group of writers in A Writing Parentsome way? Who is listening, anyway? On the more
as I am a stay at home grandmother.'' Shydove added.positive side, it is a constant source for information and
"New to online writing, and still seeking my muse andcontacts in areas that interest us. They can be
genre, there are varied questions I ask that someone isdeleted, and often the archives can be visited on some
ready to answer. They have been more than willing toassociated web site. Like the early days of bulletin
share their experience with me.''boards, I would imagine that these lists will evolve, and
some of the issues will "fall away."© Danielle
"I generally subscribe because I want to be kept inHollister (2004) is the Publisher of the Free Ezine for
touch but will not remember to visit as a favourite asWriters featuring news, reviews, and continuously
mine are so many,'' says Jennifer Francis, who isupdated links to the best resources for writers online
currently subscribed to a few lists. "I am a member oflike - freelancing & jobs, markets & publishers, literary
two or three good ones covering public relations,agents, classes & contests, and more...
sponsorship and sometimes the others present